Bhagavad Gita

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Bhagavad Gita

Post by Nicholas » Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:36 pm

This portion of the Mahabharata is beloved in India and around the world, since many translations have appeared in Western languages.

Among the many traditional commentaries, this one by the young genius Sri Jnanadeva (13th c.) is rich with devotion, esoterica and wisdom:

http://www.bvbpune.org/dnyaneshawri.html

Part of his comments on 18:12
When a grain falls on the ground from the ear of a corn, it germinates
and produces another ear of corn and this process continues - ad infinitum. So when one
is experiencing the fruits of his past actions, he goes on performing actions and creating more
fruits of action, like a person who takes one step after another while walking. A ferry takes
passengers from one bank to another and continuously moves between the two banks; in
the same way, there is no end to the experience of the fruit of actions (251-255). This experience
is ever on the increase, as the action, which ends (sadhya) becomes the means (sadhana)
for a fresh action and so those who do not relinquish the fruit of actions, become entangled
evermore in worldly existence.
Other English translations are available, but this one by Yardi is online.
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Re: Bhagavad Gita, 'bible' of Hindus

Post by Nicholas » Tue Aug 09, 2016 3:03 pm

A key verse supporting the notion of 'all paths lead to God, or the Divine'. Krishna the Avatar of the Divine, speaks:
In whatever way men approach Me, in that way I love them ; in all ways the sons of man follow My way.
Chapter 4:11
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Re: Bhagavad Gita

Post by Nicholas » Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:47 pm

I am now re-reading the classic esoteric Nath based commentary by Swami Yogananda. Read it first 20 years ago and am able to appreciate it better now. Also have read Lahiri Mahasay and Sri Yukteshwar's comments, but Yogananda's is deeper, fuller and more in tune with we benighted Occidentals. He did live here for 30 years or so.

His treatment of the first, usually ignored chapter, is amazing. He devotes 150 pages to the occult meanings of the warriors & their families etc.! His title, God Talks to Arjuna, is a tribute to a verse in Sir Arnold's Gita version.
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Re: Bhagavad Gita

Post by Nicholas » Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:11 pm

On Parabrahman, That which is to be known:
I shall declare now That which is to be
known, by knowing which one attains
immortality. The Supreme Brahman is
beginningless; It is said to be neither Sat
(existence) nor Asat (non-existence). [12]

With hands and feet everywhere, with
eyes, heads and mouths everywhere and
with ears everywhere in the universe,
That alone exists enveloping all. [13]

It shines through the functions of all
the senses, and yet It is without senses;
unattached, yet It sustains all; devoid of
Gunas (qualities), yet It is the experiencer of Gunas. [14]

It exists within and without all beings;
It is unmoving as well as moving, incomprehensible
because of Its subtlety; It is far and also near. [15]

Indivisible, yet It exists as if divided
in beings; It is to be known as the Sustainer
of beings; It destroys and also generates.[16]

It is the Light of lights and is said to
be beyond darkness. It is knowledge, the
One to be known, and the Goal of knowledge,
dwelling in the hearts of all. [17]
Chapter 13, Swami Paramananda translation.
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Re: Bhagavad Gita

Post by Nicholas » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:30 am

The modern caste system based on birth is a horrid distortion of the original, which is based on innate natural traits, or "according to his nature" as the text says. Plato also had a similar division based on character.
Neither on earth, nor in heaven, nor among the gods is there any being which
is free from these Three Powers [gunas] born of Nature [svabhava]. (40)

The works of Brahman, Kshatriya, Vaishya and Shudra, O consumer of the foe,
are apportioned according to the powers inherent in the character of each.

Peace, control, penance, purity, patience, and also rectitude, wisdom,
knowledge, affirmative faith, are the Brahman's work, according to his nature.

Heroism, fire, firmness, skill, and refusal to flee in battle, giving of gifts,
governing, are the works of the Kshatriya, according to his nature.

Ploughing, tending cattle, commerce, are the natural work of the Vaishya; work
which consists in service is the natural work of the Shudra.
Chapter 18:40-44
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Re: Bhagavad Gita

Post by Nicholas » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:35 pm

A bit from Yogananda's Introduction to his commentary, vol.1:xxv
This Bhagavad Gita that I offer to the world, God Talks With Arjuna,
is a spiritual commentary of the communion that takes place
between the omnipresent Spirit (symbolized by Krishna) and the soul
of the ideal devotee (represented by Arjuna). I arrived at the spiritual
understanding expressed in these pages by attunement with Vyasa, and
by perceiving the Spirit as God of creation relating wisdom to the awakened
Arjuna within myself. I became Arjuna's soul and communed with
Spirit; let the result speak for itself. I am not giving an interpretation,
but am chronicling what I perceived as the Spirit pours Its wisdom into
an attuned soul's devotional intuition in the various states of ecstasy.

Many truths buried in the Gita for generations are being expressed
in English for the first time through me. And I again acknowledge that
I owe much to my paramgurus, Mahavatar Babaji and Lahiri Mahasaya,
and to my Gurudeva, for their revelations, which have inspired the
birth of a new presentation of the Gita; and above all, to their grace in
blessing my endeavor. This work is not mine; it belongs to them, and
to God, Krishna, Arjuna, and Vyasa.
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Re: Bhagavad Gita

Post by Nicholas » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:52 pm

The link in the first post is not good anymore - here is one that is:

https://estudantedavedanta.net/Jnaneshwari.pdf
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Re: Bhagavad Gita

Post by Nicholas » Sat Aug 24, 2019 3:30 pm

Today 24 Aug 2019 and yesterday are celebrated in India as the birth day of Krishna. Here are a couple of verses from his "Song of the Lord", chapter Five:
VERSE 14

na kartṛtvaṁ na karmāṇi lokasya sṛjati prabhuḥ
na karmaphalasaṁyogaṁ svabhāvas tu pravartate

The Lord God does not create in men the consciousness of being doers of actions, nor does He cause actions by them, nor does He entangle them with the fruits of actions. Delusive Cosmic Nature is the originator of all these.

VERSE 15

nādatte kasyacit pāpaṁ na caiva sukṛtaṁ vibhuḥ
ajñānenāvṛtaṁ jñānaṁ tena muhyanti jantavaḥ

The All-Pervading takes no account of anyone’s virtue or sin. Wisdom is eclipsed by cosmic delusion; mankind is thereby bewildered.
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Re: Bhagavad Gita

Post by Nicholas » Sat Nov 16, 2019 9:31 pm

Many English versions are available, so this Hindu lady suggests three with good commentaries. I have all three and agree they are good choices:

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