Why did the Buddha choose not to live of Light?

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Why did the Buddha choose not to live of Light?

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Wed Jan 25, 2017 2:35 pm

Why did the Buddha choose not to live of Light?

"Devas, on seeing me, said, 'Gotama the contemplative is dead.' Other devas said, 'He isn't dead, he's dying.' Others said, 'He's neither dead nor dying, he's an arahant, for this is the way arahants live.'

"I thought: 'Suppose I were to practice going altogether without food.' Then devas came to me and said, 'Dear sir, please don't practice going altogether without food. If you go altogether without food, we'll infuse divine nourishment in through your pores, and you will survive on that.' I thought, 'If I were to claim to be completely fasting while these devas are infusing divine nourishment in through my pores, I would be lying.' So I dismissed them, saying, 'Enough.'
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html



Living on light: woman attempts to prove humans can live without food
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/ ... thout-food

Living on Light - The Source of Nourishment for the New Millennium
https://www.amazon.com/Living-Light-Sou ... 3929512351

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Re: Why did the Buddha choose not to live of Light?

Post by DNS » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:24 am

Because it doesn't work. People who claim to live without food either die or more often, cheat and eat when no one is looking.

If you look at the rest of the sutta:
"I thought: 'Suppose I were to take only a little food at a time, only a handful at a time of bean soup, lentil soup, vetch soup, or pea soup.' So I took only a little food at a time, only a handful at a time of bean soup, lentil soup, vetch soup, or pea soup. My body became extremely emaciated. Simply from my eating so little, my limbs became like the jointed segments of vine stems or bamboo stems... My backside became like a camel's hoof... My spine stood out like a string of beads... My ribs jutted out like the jutting rafters of an old, run-down barn... The gleam of my eyes appeared to be sunk deep in my eye sockets like the gleam of water deep in a well... My scalp shriveled & withered like a green bitter gourd, shriveled & withered in the heat & the wind... The skin of my belly became so stuck to my spine that when I thought of touching my belly, I grabbed hold of my spine as well; and when I thought of touching my spine, I grabbed hold of the skin of my belly as well... If I urinated or defecated, I fell over on my face right there... Simply from my eating so little, if I tried to ease my body by rubbing my limbs with my hands, the hair — rotted at its roots — fell from my body as I rubbed, simply from eating so little.
and:
"So when I had taken solid food and regained strength, then — quite secluded from sensuality, secluded from unskillful mental qualities, I entered & remained in the first jhana: . . .

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Re: Why did the Buddha choose not to live of Light?

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:35 am

Ok David !

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Re: Why did the Buddha choose not to live of Light?

Post by Karma Dondrup Tashi » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:21 am

The only breatherian I knew was my aunt. She was a schizophrenic.

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Re: Why did the Buddha choose not to live of Light?

Post by Nicholas » Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:15 pm

There are rare cases among Taoists and others where the flesh body can be sustained with little or no solid food. But it requires a great deal of labor and one's character and mind are not very different from a worldly person's.

Sorcerers like to devote much of their time to this sort of project.

On a long retreat there are certain specially formulated pills that can replace food and give enough nutrition to sustain one, but that requires a certain purity of motive and special guidance to work well.
May all seek, find and follow the Path of selflessness.

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Re: Why did the Buddha choose not to live of Light?

Post by DNS » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:08 pm

I think the Buddha Boy of Nepal was said to have lived without food; however, there were reports of food being delivered and eaten when no one was looking when he had private time behind a curtain. I don't believe he or his followers make that claim any more.

If someone spent most of the day meditating, that still time would expend very little calories (energy), so I imagine one could live with very little calories, but not completely down to no food.

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Re: Why did the Buddha choose not to live of Light?

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:08 am

David

In the documentary "AM ANFANG WAR DAS LICHT" a university does a scientific studo with one of those people who say that they live in light.

This person stays in that university watched by cameras 24 hours a day for 40 days.

After that the university takes 2 years to divulge the result and does not speak that this person lives of light. They just say that she managed to stay without feeding for 40 days.


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In this documentary are also interviewed Taoists. And they say it even as you said it.

In the Documentary Trailer to see a Taoist monk.

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The important thing is not to live light

The important thing is to know that this is possible.

We can create a topic just to discuss this.


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Re: Why did the Buddha choose not to live of Light?

Post by DNS » Mon Jan 30, 2017 3:01 am

Here is the full documetary you referred to:

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Re: Why did the Buddha choose not to live of Light?

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:57 pm

I downloaded the documentary with Portuguese subtitles. It's easy to find it on the net with all sorts of captions.

When I watch it again, I'll detail the documentary here.


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