Dionysius (ca. 500)

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Dionysius (ca. 500)

Post by Nicholas » Thu Jul 07, 2016 3:40 am

Major influence on Catholics and mystics Xtians too:

http://www.documentacatholicaomnia.eu/0 ... ks,_EN.pdf
For, as things intelligible cannot be comprehended and contemplated by things of sense, and things
uncompounded and unformed by things compounded and formed; and the intangible and unshaped
formlessness of things without body, by those formed according to the shapes of bodies; in
accordance with the self-same analogy of the truth, the superessential Illimitability is placed above
things essential, and the Unity above mind above the Minds; and the One above conception is
inconceivable to all conceptions; and the Good above word is unutterable by word—Unit making
one every unit, and superessential essence and mind inconceivable, and Word unutterable,
speechlessness and inconception, and namelessness—being after the manner of no existing being,
and Cause of being to all, but Itself not being, as beyond every essence, and as It may manifest
Itself properly and scientifically concerning Itself.
From Divine Names.

Who he really was is still unclear, but one possibility is Peter Fuller, Patriarch of Antioch (471-488).
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Re: Dionysius (ca. 500)

Post by Iconodule » Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:17 pm

Divine Names is wonderful. For some very mind-bending developments from Dionysius, read some of Saint Maximus the Confessor.
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Re: Dionysius (ca. 500)

Post by Nicholas » Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:53 pm

Iconodule wrote:Divine Names is wonderful. For some very mind-bending developments from Dionysius, read some of Saint Maximus the Confessor.
Give us some examples from St. Maximos or at least mention which text of his has these. Maybe this one? Two Hundred Texts on Theology and the Incarnate Dispensation of the Son of God.
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Re: Dionysius (ca. 500)

Post by Iconodule » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:20 pm

Sorry, yes, there are a number of books of Saint Maximus available in English. I read the Selected Writings published by Paulist press but there are a couple other volumes.
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Re: Dionysius (ca. 500)

Post by Nicholas » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:18 pm

The Philokalia note introducing the St Maximos section says the Two Hundred text of his did make use of Dionysios:
Two Hundred Texts on Theology and the Incarnate Dispensation of the Son of God. This seems to have
been written in Africa between 630 and 634, and is far more complex in its argument [than the Four Hundred on Love]. With remarkable subtlety St Maximos has adapted and drawn into a single synthesis ideas taken from Origen (c. 185- c. 254), Evagrios (345/6-399) and St Dionysios the Areopagite (c. 500).
St Dionysios was certainly a major inspiration for early Xtianity.
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Re: Dionysius (ca. 500)

Post by Iconodule » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:32 pm

St Maximus also comments on some passages from St. Dionysius (along with Gregory the Theologian and others) in his Ambigua which has been translated into English in two volumes.
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Re: Dionysius (ca. 500)

Post by Nicholas » Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:37 pm

The specific individual was probably not Peter the Fuller, however John Dillon seems to have found the circle he belonged to:

https://www.academia.edu/7919496/Proclus_and_Dionysius
It is probably futile to speculate as to the precise identity of this remarkable figure, but he can be situated with great probability, I feel, within the circle of the controversial Monophysite theologian and ecclesiastical statesman, Severus of Antioch...
Though there will probably never be agreement as to the precise identity of this remarkable figure, it seems pretty safe to say at least that such figures as Severus, and probably also John of Scythopolis, were well acquainted with him, and in sympathy with what he was trying to achieve.
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