Closer to truth (inspiration for Dharma Paths)

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Closer to truth (inspiration for Dharma Paths)

Post by DNS » Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:59 pm

Here is a short book / booklet I wrote about a year ago:

http://www.closertotruth.org/

Here is the direct link to the pdf booklet:

http://thedhamma.com/closertotruth.pdf

It shows some of my analysis for my affinity for Dharma Paths; that is Dharmic religions and one of the inspirations for creating this site.

It is only about 30 pages long so can be read rather easily and quickly.

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Post by AlexMcLeod » Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:08 am

Even at only 30 pages, the analysis is quite deep. It makes me realize how little work I've done on my book/pamphlet.
There is no Emotion, there is Peace;
There is no Ignorance, there is Knowledge;
There is no Passion, there is Serenity;
There is no Death, there is the Force.

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Post by thepea » Fri Sep 02, 2016 1:33 am

From closer to the truth chapter 3
"It is not the atheists’ duty to prove that there is no God. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof or evidence. It is the duty of the theists to prove that there is a God, which they have not done."

"This is peace, this is exquisite — the resolution of all fabrications, the relinquishment of all acquisitions, the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Nibbana."

— AN 3.32
Prove it.
How is a description of Nibbana, and a claim of the existence of God any different?

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Post by DNS » Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:08 am

AlexMcLeod wrote:Even at only 30 pages, the analysis is quite deep.
Thanks.

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Post by DNS » Fri Sep 02, 2016 3:11 am

thepea wrote: How is a description of Nibbana, and a claim of the existence of God any different?
Nibbana (nirvana) is not an anthropomorphic being. No writings or no book can prove nirvana. Nirvana is the cessation of suffering. We can infer that it is possible because as we progress we can experience and notice less suffering in our lives and infer from that it is possible to have virtually no suffering and then possibly complete cessation of suffering.

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Post by thepea » Fri Sep 02, 2016 2:21 pm

It's the same, if I see the qualities of God as an all knowing eternal presence within, and I can notice a increase in these qualities within, this is equivalent to seeing a decrease in suffering ,as when you remove suffering presence replaces this.

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Post by thepea » Fri Sep 02, 2016 6:12 pm

David N. Snyder wrote: Nirvana is the cessation of suffering.
Yes, when there is no suffering one is unified with God.

Same just using different language.

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Post by Karma Dondrup Tashi » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:06 am

David N. Snyder wrote:
thepea wrote: How is a description of Nibbana, and a claim of the existence of God any different?
Nibbana (nirvana) is not an anthropomorphic being. No writings or no book can prove nirvana. Nirvana is the cessation of suffering. We can infer that it is possible because as we progress we can experience and notice less suffering in our lives and infer from that it is possible to have virtually no suffering and then possibly complete cessation of suffering.
If I am an anthromorphuc being, why can't the ultimate share that characteristic?

The short book is wonderful, by the way.

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Post by DNS » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:42 am

Karma Dondrup Tashi wrote: If I am an anthromorphuc being, why can't the ultimate share that characteristic?
You are an anthropomorphic being because that is how we evolved as the human species. The workings of evolution are not divinely directed or controlled. It proceeds by natural selection factors, including survival skills and attributes. There are also accidental mutations that occur during evolution. The most intelligent, dominant species of this planet (humans) could have taken some different turns throughout our species' history and we could have looked completely different.

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Post by DNS » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:42 am

Karma Dondrup Tashi wrote: The short book is wonderful, by the way.
Thanks!

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Post by Nicholas » Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:51 pm

The value of comparative study is unmistakable. Every sincere seeker after Truth recognizes the great stimulus it exerts over the mind, and welcomes with joyous heart every revelation that is sustained and verified by many sources both old and new. The dogmatist, on the other hand, in order to safeguard his chosen creed, sits with doors closed to both past and present.

We forget that Truth is self-sufficient and self-sustaining and does not require human hand to protect it. Why should a precept of the New Testament be less valuable if it is found in the Old Testament, or again in the Jewish Kabala, or in the Egyptian sacred codes, in the Zend Avesta of the Parsees, in the great Chinese classics, or in the Indo-Aryan Vedic revelation? Not only is the value of such a saying not decreased, it is reinforced a thousandfold and its utility is expanded. It is only when we settle down to religious morbidity that we are fearful of anything out of our usual custom or habit.
Swami Paramananda in Emerson and Vedanta
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Re: Closer to truth (inspiration for Dharma Paths)

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:29 am

"Perhaps the teaching is one, but there are various people who hear it. On account of the inconceivable merit it bestows, it shines forth in various ways".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haribhadra



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Post by Krishnadas1991 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:49 am

Perhaps you could also include the Ancient Greeks and Romans within the paths of consideration?

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Re: Closer to truth (inspiration for Dharma Paths)

Post by Nicholas » Thu Jan 02, 2020 4:56 pm

Krishnadas1991 wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:49 am
Perhaps you could also include the Ancient Greeks and Romans within the paths of consideration?
This site could use some reorganization, but the Greeks and Romans are around about. Here are a couple of threads:

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1469

viewtopic.php?f=40&t=1473
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