Buddhism and gender equality are incompatible ideologies

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Buddhism and gender equality are incompatible ideologies

Post by Friedrich » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:57 pm

A religious Buddhist cannot advocate for gender equality, as the Buddha himself (blessed be the arahant) was strongly against women's rights.

In Dhammapada Verses 349 and 350, the Buddha uttered Verses (349) and (350) of this book, with reference to a young bhikkhu, who was a skilful archer in one of his previous existences.
Once a young bhikkhu took his alms-food in one of the shelters specially built for bhikkhus in town. After his meal he felt like drinking water. So he went to a house and asked for some drinking water, and a young woman came out to give him some water. As soon as this young woman saw the young bhikkhu she fell in love with him. Wishing to entice him, she invited the young bhikkhu to come to her house whenever he felt thirsty. After some time, she invited him to her house for alms-food. On that day, she told him that they had everything they could wish for in the house, but that there was no male to look after their affairs, etc. Hearing those words, the young bhikkhu took the hint and he soon found himself to be more and more attached to the young, attractive woman. He became very much dissatisfied with his life as a bhikkhu and was getting thin. Other bhikkhus reported about him to the Buddha.

The Buddha called the young bhikkhu to his presence and said to him, "My son, listen to me. This young woman will be your undoing just as she had been to you in a previous existence. In one of your previous existences you were a very skilful archer and she was your wife. On one occasion, while the two of you were travelling, you came upon a gang of highwaymen. She fell in love with the gang leader. So, while you and the gang leader were engaged in fighting and you called out to her to give you the sword, she gave the sword to the robber who promptly killed you. Thus, she was the cause of your death. Now, too, she will be the cause of your ruin if you go after her and leave my Order for her sake."
The implications regarding women's inferior past karma are clear. Centuries later, the Judeo-Christian identification of women with evil in fact echoed that previously established by the Buddha himself (blessed be the arahant).

Of more interest, the Buddha (blessed be the arahant) also said in the Aparimitayur Sutra that there will never be a female Buddha because of the inferior nature of women. Women must achieve "enough merit to be a man", be born as men and then become Buddha.
In the chapter on enlightenment in his Bodhisattva-Bhumi, Asanga maintains that women cannot be enlightened,since all of them possess by nature (prakyrya) numerous affiicting emotions and a weak understanding, and as such cannot reach enlightenment.

In describing the Bodhisattvas' practice during three immeasurable eons (asankhyeya) before they can become Buddhas, Asanga explains that after passing beyond the first immeasurable eon, the Bodhisattvas abandon womanly existence and are no longer born as women.
See: http://www.academia.edu/3717089/Can_Wom ... _Practices

Any attempts by pseudo-Buddhist "feminists" to refute the above are (1) apologism and (2) indications that one has strayed from the path of the Dhamma and the true teachings of the Buddha (blessed be the arahant).

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Re: Buddhism and gender equality are incompatible ideologies

Post by Nicholas » Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:13 pm

However reluctant Buddha was to consider women, generally speaking, as having the same merit & spiritual potential as men, he did eventually open the sangha to them. Many became and can today, become arhats & bodhisattvas, it is just that they have to work much harder and longer - again generally speaking.
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Re: Buddhism and gender equality are incompatible ideologies

Post by Witschnerd1 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:02 pm

Someone correct me if I'm wrong. But we are supposed to use our own logic and reason in our Dharma. 2500 years ago women were in fact inferior to men. The requirements for life in those days was much more physical and men are stronger. Women would have considered themselves to be inferior. Both physically and socially we have evolved. Let's say that love and compassion are vital to the middle path. From my point of view my wife is much more naturally inclined to be loving and caring than I am. So in many ways I see myself as inferior to her in matters of the heart

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Re: Buddhism and gender equality are incompatible ideologies

Post by Nicholas » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:36 am

Witschnerd1:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong. But we are supposed to use our own logic and reason in our Dharma... Women would have considered themselves to be inferior...
We are not supposed to rely exclusively on our own 'logic & reason' though. Faith and other qualities are also valuable.

It was Buddha's Aunt or some female relative who bugged him over & over to open the sangha to women. So she did not consider herself nor some other women so inferior as to not have their own sangha. Yet Buddha also said his dispensation would be weakened or shortened (I forget) if women were admitted.
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Re: Buddhism and gender equality are incompatible ideologies

Post by DNS » Tue Jan 08, 2019 3:09 am

The Buddha allowed the ordination of women after he added some extra rules to protect them and to protect the Dispensation from dying out early. He also stated that they had full access to full-enlightenment.

It was either the first or perhaps the second world religion to allow the ordination of women (the Jains may have been the first). Consider the state of women back in 6th century BCE:

In a crowded house of 8+ children and perhaps pregnant too, caring for all the children, preparing meals for the entire family while the boys and men are out in the fields working. Lots of noise and distractions and lots demands and expectations placed on her; not an ideal state for spiritual practice as in the modern 21st century where we have paid-vacation days to go on retreats, etc. And yet, the Buddha still saw that women had the capacity to go forth and ordain and had the capacity for enlightenment.

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Re: Buddhism and gender equality are incompatible ideologies

Post by Herb Caplan » Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:34 am

What???!!!

You mean the political sensibilities that happen to be popular in the era that I happen to be born in AREN'T absolute law???

Shame on you! The Buddha (blessed be the arahant) would definitely be a Bernie supporter if he were here today.
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